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		<title>By: jim fetterolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim fetterolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’m not sure how many teams really want a scattered grouping of player&quot;

That&#039;s why I mentioned Oakland and Seattle.  Oakland&#039;s position players are about Texas League on average, but they have quite a bit of pitching.  They really have little use for one star position player nor for an injured AA and inconsistent AAA pitcher, but a DH, a 1B, and a CF capable of starting and staying under control for several years would improve them greatly for next year and beyond.  Since Billy Beane loves OBP, he&#039;ld have to have Kila, Cain&#039;s speed would play well in the Colosseum, Lough would be an improvement over DeJesus.  That type of situation seems most likely; poor, cheap teams needing several bodies, not unlike the Royals last year.

&quot;It would be a tough sell to offer several AAA players that aren’t good enough to play on the Royals&quot;

Better phrased would be: &quot;Not good enough to take a job from Billy, Hoz, and Melky.&quot;  That puts the situation in a different light, as there are few players in the game now that would be able to take those jobs and much fewer that could do it for major league minimum with years of control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not sure how many teams really want a scattered grouping of player&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I mentioned Oakland and Seattle.  Oakland&#8217;s position players are about Texas League on average, but they have quite a bit of pitching.  They really have little use for one star position player nor for an injured AA and inconsistent AAA pitcher, but a DH, a 1B, and a CF capable of starting and staying under control for several years would improve them greatly for next year and beyond.  Since Billy Beane loves OBP, he&#8217;ld have to have Kila, Cain&#8217;s speed would play well in the Colosseum, Lough would be an improvement over DeJesus.  That type of situation seems most likely; poor, cheap teams needing several bodies, not unlike the Royals last year.</p>
<p>&#8220;It would be a tough sell to offer several AAA players that aren’t good enough to play on the Royals&#8221;</p>
<p>Better phrased would be: &#8220;Not good enough to take a job from Billy, Hoz, and Melky.&#8221;  That puts the situation in a different light, as there are few players in the game now that would be able to take those jobs and much fewer that could do it for major league minimum with years of control.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edwin Jackson isn&#039;t the type of guy you write home about.  But he is an improvement over anyone in the current rotation.  If he could fill in at #2 for 6-8 mil a year, then he would be worth it.

Jim, I&#039;m not really sure what other teams would be looking to get.  It would be a tough sell to offer several AAA players that aren&#039;t good enough to play on the Royals.  Although C.Rob and Cain have something about them.  I would say it would take something more along the lines of Lamb and Monty to get a true ace, and that is too steep for me.  

I&#039;m not sure how many teams really want a scattered grouping of players.  Weren&#039;t the Royals going to get Danny Espinosa, Drew Storen, Jordan Zimmerman, and a prospect C, right?  That would have been a pretty good haul.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edwin Jackson isn&#8217;t the type of guy you write home about.  But he is an improvement over anyone in the current rotation.  If he could fill in at #2 for 6-8 mil a year, then he would be worth it.</p>
<p>Jim, I&#8217;m not really sure what other teams would be looking to get.  It would be a tough sell to offer several AAA players that aren&#8217;t good enough to play on the Royals.  Although C.Rob and Cain have something about them.  I would say it would take something more along the lines of Lamb and Monty to get a true ace, and that is too steep for me.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how many teams really want a scattered grouping of players.  Weren&#8217;t the Royals going to get Danny Espinosa, Drew Storen, Jordan Zimmerman, and a prospect C, right?  That would have been a pretty good haul.</p>
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		<title>By: jim fetterolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim fetterolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;HAHA. We know better now.&quot;

Meche and Hoch hurt had something to do with it.

Since we are talking of trading for an ace, any ideas what it would take to get one?  The Brewers gave a bunch for Greinke, so, specifically, who would we trade to get that quality of pitcher?  We have spare OF, 1B, and DH, but none of them are premium positions.  Maybe Cuthbert, Fletcher, Orlando, Cain, Dwyer, Kila, Lough, and Holland?  How much damage to the system is worth the crap-shoot and expense that is an ace?  Oakland and Seattle both need so many positions filled that we might be able to give either of them half an improved starting line-up for a stud and #3.  Giants are another possibility; Cain, Lough, and C. Robinson making them a better team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;HAHA. We know better now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meche and Hoch hurt had something to do with it.</p>
<p>Since we are talking of trading for an ace, any ideas what it would take to get one?  The Brewers gave a bunch for Greinke, so, specifically, who would we trade to get that quality of pitcher?  We have spare OF, 1B, and DH, but none of them are premium positions.  Maybe Cuthbert, Fletcher, Orlando, Cain, Dwyer, Kila, Lough, and Holland?  How much damage to the system is worth the crap-shoot and expense that is an ace?  Oakland and Seattle both need so many positions filled that we might be able to give either of them half an improved starting line-up for a stud and #3.  Giants are another possibility; Cain, Lough, and C. Robinson making them a better team.</p>
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		<title>By: Austyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GMDM biggest acquisition this winter needs to be a #1/2 starter, most likely the best we can hope for in a #2 but that is what this team needs. I have read on these comments about Edwin Jackson, I am not sold at all on him. He is someone that has stretches of good games and then is just not very good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMDM biggest acquisition this winter needs to be a #1/2 starter, most likely the best we can hope for in a #2 but that is what this team needs. I have read on these comments about Edwin Jackson, I am not sold at all on him. He is someone that has stretches of good games and then is just not very good.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christian, really?  Under achieved?  180IP, 137K, 3.75ERA, 55BB for a 28 year old is under achieved?  Chen hasn&#039;t been &quot;much&quot; worse, but only 133IP, 87K, 4.04, 45BB for a 34 year old.  Come on.  Take Jackson as the #2 in FA, and trade for an ace.  Chen is a #4/5 in a good rotation, Jackson still has the stuff to be a #2/3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian, really?  Under achieved?  180IP, 137K, 3.75ERA, 55BB for a 28 year old is under achieved?  Chen hasn&#8217;t been &#8220;much&#8221; worse, but only 133IP, 87K, 4.04, 45BB for a 34 year old.  Come on.  Take Jackson as the #2 in FA, and trade for an ace.  Chen is a #4/5 in a good rotation, Jackson still has the stuff to be a #2/3.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*They need Billingsly and Edwin Jackson, and they win the AL Central.*

Edwin Jackson are you serious what has he done except lose for the cardinals and under achieve everywhere else, he&#039;d be a shot in the dark much rather trade a couple prime prospects for a true No. 1 starter and Edwin Jackson does not fit that bill at all even if he is able to be brought in for cheap id still rather have Chen any day of the week !!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*They need Billingsly and Edwin Jackson, and they win the AL Central.*</p>
<p>Edwin Jackson are you serious what has he done except lose for the cardinals and under achieve everywhere else, he&#8217;d be a shot in the dark much rather trade a couple prime prospects for a true No. 1 starter and Edwin Jackson does not fit that bill at all even if he is able to be brought in for cheap id still rather have Chen any day of the week !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.royalsauthority.com/?p=4472&#038;cpage=1#comment-9585</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right now Chen is at the very end of the Type &quot;B&quot; FA list.  So there is a good chance that if somebody &quot;outbids&quot; the Royals for Chen, the Royals will get a comp pick.  

I think before the 2009 season, there were alot of people that thought the rotation could be pretty good.  Meche, Greinke, Hochevar, Davies, Bannister looked pretty good at that time.  HAHA. We know better now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now Chen is at the very end of the Type &#8220;B&#8221; FA list.  So there is a good chance that if somebody &#8220;outbids&#8221; the Royals for Chen, the Royals will get a comp pick.  </p>
<p>I think before the 2009 season, there were alot of people that thought the rotation could be pretty good.  Meche, Greinke, Hochevar, Davies, Bannister looked pretty good at that time.  HAHA. We know better now.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there any chance that Chen and Francis will be Type B FAs?  I like Chen and Francis, but I agree with Jim.  However, he will command more $$$$$ next year.  

1. (Trade Acquisition)
2. Hochevar
3. Paulino 
4. Duffy
5. Chen (more likely someone else)

How long has it been since there&#039;s a true chance of all five KC starters having a sub-5.00 ERA?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any chance that Chen and Francis will be Type B FAs?  I like Chen and Francis, but I agree with Jim.  However, he will command more $$$$$ next year.  </p>
<p>1. (Trade Acquisition)<br />
2. Hochevar<br />
3. Paulino<br />
4. Duffy<br />
5. Chen (more likely someone else)</p>
<p>How long has it been since there&#8217;s a true chance of all five KC starters having a sub-5.00 ERA?</p>
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		<title>By: DanL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonder if I heard Yost correctly on yesterday&#039;s pregame show - in talking about Teaford getting a shot at the rotation next year - I think Yost said something to the effect that there will be a couple of open rotation spots next year after Duffy, Paulino and Hoch.... I was shocked, so I could have heard that wrong - but seemed like he already had Chen/Francis gone.

Either way, they seem to be gone due to free agency and the Royals wanting to open up roster spots for the next wave of minor league pitchers. And we shouldn&#039;t forget that the Atlanta connection probably gets Zach Miner a roster spot next year (you know, take Davies spot...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if I heard Yost correctly on yesterday&#8217;s pregame show &#8211; in talking about Teaford getting a shot at the rotation next year &#8211; I think Yost said something to the effect that there will be a couple of open rotation spots next year after Duffy, Paulino and Hoch&#8230;. I was shocked, so I could have heard that wrong &#8211; but seemed like he already had Chen/Francis gone.</p>
<p>Either way, they seem to be gone due to free agency and the Royals wanting to open up roster spots for the next wave of minor league pitchers. And we shouldn&#8217;t forget that the Atlanta connection probably gets Zach Miner a roster spot next year (you know, take Davies spot&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: jim fetterolf</title>
		<link>http://www.royalsauthority.com/?p=4472&#038;cpage=1#comment-9582</link>
		<dc:creator>jim fetterolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ld resign Master Chen but not sure on Francis.  I think Chen is both a better pitcher, fip be damned, and a better mentor for the young lefties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ld resign Master Chen but not sure on Francis.  I think Chen is both a better pitcher, fip be damned, and a better mentor for the young lefties.</p>
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