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	<title>Comments on: 40 Man Roster Review &#8211; Jeff Francoeur</title>
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		<title>By: jim fetterolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim fetterolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 03:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Let’s just say that I’m more likely to think it was a one year, ‘small sample size’ aberration than some kind of lasting epiphany.&quot;

If Frenchy had made no changes in conditioning, swing, and approach, this would be a valid guess. As he did make changes, like Melky changed his conditioning and approach and Alex changed his swing and approach, Frenchy, like Alex and Melky, had a very good year. No reason to assume he chooses to change back to what didn&#039;t work. I expect him to be working with Seitzer to get better at going opposite field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let’s just say that I’m more likely to think it was a one year, ‘small sample size’ aberration than some kind of lasting epiphany.&#8221;</p>
<p>If Frenchy had made no changes in conditioning, swing, and approach, this would be a valid guess. As he did make changes, like Melky changed his conditioning and approach and Alex changed his swing and approach, Frenchy, like Alex and Melky, had a very good year. No reason to assume he chooses to change back to what didn&#8217;t work. I expect him to be working with Seitzer to get better at going opposite field.</p>
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		<title>By: FromThisSeat.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromThisSeat.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frenchy is just a good baseball player. Nothing flashy, almost like a journeyman role player but above average.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frenchy is just a good baseball player. Nothing flashy, almost like a journeyman role player but above average.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to burst anyone&#039;s bubble here, but....

What is more likely:  from his age 22-26 seasons, after posting OPS+ figures of 87,102, 72, 93, and 85, he suddenly (miraculously?) &#039;found it&#039; and racked up a solid 119 at age 27; or, as often happens with players around 27 years of age, he put up a &#039;career year&#039; that he is unlikely to duplicate again?

Let&#039;s just say that I&#039;m more likely to think it was a one year, &#039;small sample size&#039; aberration  than some kind of lasting epiphany.  And you might want to check with the Mets to see what a &#039;good clubhouse guy&#039; Francoeur becomes when he starts losing at bats, so platooning him may not be such a great idea either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to burst anyone&#8217;s bubble here, but&#8230;.</p>
<p>What is more likely:  from his age 22-26 seasons, after posting OPS+ figures of 87,102, 72, 93, and 85, he suddenly (miraculously?) &#8216;found it&#8217; and racked up a solid 119 at age 27; or, as often happens with players around 27 years of age, he put up a &#8216;career year&#8217; that he is unlikely to duplicate again?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just say that I&#8217;m more likely to think it was a one year, &#8216;small sample size&#8217; aberration  than some kind of lasting epiphany.  And you might want to check with the Mets to see what a &#8216;good clubhouse guy&#8217; Francoeur becomes when he starts losing at bats, so platooning him may not be such a great idea either.</p>
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		<title>By: jim fetterolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim fetterolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;“I don’t care if Frenchy has 16 OF assists and is hitting .275 with 15 dingers, Myers HAS to be promoted, dude is Hosmerizing the PCL!!”&quot;

Then we&#039;ll be glad that we didn&#039;t trade Myers for some pitcher this winter. My hope is that Monty is up and producing and that Duffy has taken the next step so next winter we don&#039;t have to even consider over paying for a #1 starter or talk about trading top prospects for another team&#039;s pitchers. Instead we&#039;ll be wondering if we can get a good pitching prospect or decent UIF for Frenchy and be glad we got a decent AA arm for Sanchez.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“I don’t care if Frenchy has 16 OF assists and is hitting .275 with 15 dingers, Myers HAS to be promoted, dude is Hosmerizing the PCL!!”&#8221;</p>
<p>Then we&#8217;ll be glad that we didn&#8217;t trade Myers for some pitcher this winter. My hope is that Monty is up and producing and that Duffy has taken the next step so next winter we don&#8217;t have to even consider over paying for a #1 starter or talk about trading top prospects for another team&#8217;s pitchers. Instead we&#8217;ll be wondering if we can get a good pitching prospect or decent UIF for Frenchy and be glad we got a decent AA arm for Sanchez.</p>
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		<title>By: airgoesit</title>
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		<dc:creator>airgoesit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arguing about who&#039;s responsible for fielding a legitimate major league offense...in KC.  I love it.
I can only hope we&#039;re having the same &quot;discussion&quot; about the other side of the ball in September amid screams that &quot;I don&#039;t care if Frenchy has 16 OF assists and is hitting .275 with 15 dingers, Myers HAS to be promoted, dude is Hosmerizing the PCL!!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguing about who&#8217;s responsible for fielding a legitimate major league offense&#8230;in KC.  I love it.<br />
I can only hope we&#8217;re having the same &#8220;discussion&#8221; about the other side of the ball in September amid screams that &#8220;I don&#8217;t care if Frenchy has 16 OF assists and is hitting .275 with 15 dingers, Myers HAS to be promoted, dude is Hosmerizing the PCL!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gordon gives Seitzer credit as do some others and that&#039;s good enough.  I&#039;m not saying he&#039;s a bad coach or can&#039;t be effective with certain guys.  I am saying that this notion that we should expect continued improved offensive performance based on Seitzer being the coach is misguided.  It&#039;s more sunshine pumping.  Well, we&#039;re young and talented and we have Seitzer so you better expect big things!  Young and talented are the two biggest factors in that claim.  Send Seitzer to Seattle and see how that works out.

Seitzer is one of my favorite all-time Royals.  This shouldn&#039;t cloud the fact that hitting coaches are given undue credit/blame.  He&#039;s getting the Frank White treatment from our fan base.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon gives Seitzer credit as do some others and that&#8217;s good enough.  I&#8217;m not saying he&#8217;s a bad coach or can&#8217;t be effective with certain guys.  I am saying that this notion that we should expect continued improved offensive performance based on Seitzer being the coach is misguided.  It&#8217;s more sunshine pumping.  Well, we&#8217;re young and talented and we have Seitzer so you better expect big things!  Young and talented are the two biggest factors in that claim.  Send Seitzer to Seattle and see how that works out.</p>
<p>Seitzer is one of my favorite all-time Royals.  This shouldn&#8217;t cloud the fact that hitting coaches are given undue credit/blame.  He&#8217;s getting the Frank White treatment from our fan base.</p>
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		<title>By: jim fetterolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim fetterolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The players deserve the vast majority of blame/credit.&quot;

True, but they still need a coach able to find the fixes. Coaches don&#039;t do it by themselves and the players often don&#039;t do it either by themselves. If players did, teams wouldn&#039;t need coaches.

&quot;So, I guess I’m saying it is possible for the same guy to do a poor coaching job in one place and a good coaching job in another.&quot;

True. Coaches can learn, too. And the pieces have to fit together.

&quot;Now Seitzer has a roster full of young emerging talent and he gets the credit instead of them? Again, that’s insane.&quot;

Frenchy, Alex, Billy, and Melky weren&#039;t particularly young or emerging, rather were getting on in player years and three of them were about at the end of their career ropes. Seitzer did do a lot of work with Moose on adjustments and approach that prepared the Moose for his late-season take-off, as Moose himself has said. You have to start with talent, but a coach can help maximize production from the talent. That may be why Bob McClure is gone.  Reasonable people can disagree on the value of coaching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The players deserve the vast majority of blame/credit.&#8221;</p>
<p>True, but they still need a coach able to find the fixes. Coaches don&#8217;t do it by themselves and the players often don&#8217;t do it either by themselves. If players did, teams wouldn&#8217;t need coaches.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, I guess I’m saying it is possible for the same guy to do a poor coaching job in one place and a good coaching job in another.&#8221;</p>
<p>True. Coaches can learn, too. And the pieces have to fit together.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now Seitzer has a roster full of young emerging talent and he gets the credit instead of them? Again, that’s insane.&#8221;</p>
<p>Frenchy, Alex, Billy, and Melky weren&#8217;t particularly young or emerging, rather were getting on in player years and three of them were about at the end of their career ropes. Seitzer did do a lot of work with Moose on adjustments and approach that prepared the Moose for his late-season take-off, as Moose himself has said. You have to start with talent, but a coach can help maximize production from the talent. That may be why Bob McClure is gone.  Reasonable people can disagree on the value of coaching.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Fosler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark Fosler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My recollection of the Diamondbacks/Seitzer situation was that Seitzer did not have much support from the manager and that there was a disconnect between Kevin and many of the players.

Now, certainly, part of being a good coach is figuring out a way to get the players to &#039;buy in&#039; and Seitzer was not able to do so in Arizona (they did, by the way, have some very talented hitters when he was there).   So, I guess I&#039;m saying it is possible for the same guy to do a poor coaching job in one place and a good coaching job in another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My recollection of the Diamondbacks/Seitzer situation was that Seitzer did not have much support from the manager and that there was a disconnect between Kevin and many of the players.</p>
<p>Now, certainly, part of being a good coach is figuring out a way to get the players to &#8216;buy in&#8217; and Seitzer was not able to do so in Arizona (they did, by the way, have some very talented hitters when he was there).   So, I guess I&#8217;m saying it is possible for the same guy to do a poor coaching job in one place and a good coaching job in another.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, you&#039;re enforcing my point.  The players deserve the vast majority of blame/credit.  Perhaps Seitzer gets a bit of credit for Alex finally listening to coaching, but my instincts tell me that if Alex starting listening to any coach a bit sooner he was capable of this all along.  Sure, some guys fit well with a particular coach, but that doesn&#039;t mean b/c Seitzer worked well with Alex than the entire roster&#039;s hitting improvement can be traced to him.  Further, of course the D&#039;Backs didn&#039;t have that kind of talent--that&#039;s why they batted .248!  Now Seitzer has a roster full of young emerging talent and he gets the credit instead of them?  Again, that&#039;s insane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, you&#8217;re enforcing my point.  The players deserve the vast majority of blame/credit.  Perhaps Seitzer gets a bit of credit for Alex finally listening to coaching, but my instincts tell me that if Alex starting listening to any coach a bit sooner he was capable of this all along.  Sure, some guys fit well with a particular coach, but that doesn&#8217;t mean b/c Seitzer worked well with Alex than the entire roster&#8217;s hitting improvement can be traced to him.  Further, of course the D&#8217;Backs didn&#8217;t have that kind of talent&#8211;that&#8217;s why they batted .248!  Now Seitzer has a roster full of young emerging talent and he gets the credit instead of them?  Again, that&#8217;s insane.</p>
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		<title>By: jim fetterolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim fetterolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;he will raise the level of hitters all across the roster is insane.&quot;

Coaches can only help the players willing to listen to them. Both Frenchy and Alex were in KC last winter working with Seitzer, Billy went to Seitz during the year for help, Hoch finally started pitching inside and stopped shaking off his catcher. Coaches have plenty of data and video technology now to analyze players and find areas of improvement, but not all players are willing or able to make the adjustments or have the talent to achieve high levels of production. Did the D&#039;Backs have talent equal to Alex, Billy, Frenchy, Moose, Melky, and so on?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he will raise the level of hitters all across the roster is insane.&#8221;</p>
<p>Coaches can only help the players willing to listen to them. Both Frenchy and Alex were in KC last winter working with Seitzer, Billy went to Seitz during the year for help, Hoch finally started pitching inside and stopped shaking off his catcher. Coaches have plenty of data and video technology now to analyze players and find areas of improvement, but not all players are willing or able to make the adjustments or have the talent to achieve high levels of production. Did the D&#8217;Backs have talent equal to Alex, Billy, Frenchy, Moose, Melky, and so on?</p>
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